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"Commodities Are a Flight to Quality"
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Host 1: Thursday morning, welcome back to Squawk Box Asia side, let’s get
to Todd Everts, president and CEO at Wall Street Global, he joins us live from our
studios up in Hong Kong. Todd, great to see you again. We were talking offline just
a couple of minutes ago and you were saying the look of the last 6 weeks there’s
been a lot of happening that’s given you reason for optimism, I mean we were talking
about this earlier on this morning. Markets seems to be pricing and not just the
US recovery but a global one as well but hey let’s not get ahead of ourselves there’s
a lot to be cautious about still.
Todd G. Everts: I think there’s a lot of reasons to be cautious because there’s
a lot of manufacturing data, there’s lot of earning reports from non-bank type of
stocks that are going to be reported in the next few weeks in the US which are going
to be disappointing. The Sea-change that I’ve seen in and amongst the circles that
I am in, in Asia, the Middle East and Latin America are first of all as we approached
the end of last year, there wasn’t any activity, whether as M&A (Merger and Acquisitions)
or as private equity or it was allocations to hedge funds. As we approached the
beginning of the new year we saw nothing that gave us hope, nothing that gave us
confidence because in Asia, Chinese New Year and getting back to work. But what
I’ve seen is a dramatic sea change in the last 6 weeks as it relates to M&A activity,
allocations to hedge funds, allocations to funds of hedge funds, and venture capital.
And that is extremely encouraging. All that with the fact that new money is coming
in to the market without the use of leverage and so as we look at the markets, say,
a year ago, the volatility we saw in the markets was escalated dramatically because
the amount of capital was levered 7, 10, 15, 20 times depending on the investor.
Today, because the banks haven’t re-entered they’re starting to re-enter which is
encouraging. The amount of volatility in the market is slightly less but it’s new
money coming in to the market. If we look at the consumer in the US which drives
the US economy and we look at the consumer in the investment world which invest
in the US for mutual fund, 401Ks and retirement plans if they’ve exited the market
they’re already gone, so if they’re coming back in to the market this is an extremely
positive sign.
Host 1: Is it there or it isn’t really big money. Is it institutional money
is coming in?
Todd G. Everts: I think it’s institutional money but what’s encouraging is
that institutional money is unlevered so when we see the market go up by half a
percent, one percent or two percent it’s more of real money, it’s not money that
is betting on an opportunity for the day or the week, it’s more on money that is
going to stay in the market. That is encouraging. What’s discouraging is we’re going
to get negative numbers from US manufacturing, we’re going to get negative numbers
as relates to US financial bailout, we’re going to get negative on employment numbers
and the market still seems to be resilient to this because it’s new money coming
in to the market.
Host 1: We’ll talk about this new money by coming up more in just a bit Todd
Everts CEO at Wall Street Global from our studios live up in Hong Kong.
(commercial break)
Host 1:You’re back with Squawk Box Asia Thursday morning we are back with
Todd Everts CEO at Wall Street Global staying with us from our studios live up in
Hong Kong. Todd, you left off here talking about optimistic because there is new
fresh money coming in to markets whether it’s equities or private equity or VC (venture
capital) and what’s good about this is, this is largely unlevered money yet you’re
saying we can only look forward to more bearish data coming out in the near future.
Why therefore is this money going back in?
Todd G. Everts: Well, this money doesn’t have an alternative. This money’s
alternative is cash and this cash is set in the sidelines. When you talk about new
money it’s money that’s in the market in the past, it’s money that was liquidated
from the market at a previous point which is probably at a loss from the highs but
is now re-entering the market because you can’t catch a falling knife, you cannot
find the absolute low the person that can perfect.. that is probably Bernie Madoff
and that just doesn’t occur so people are now seeing a resilience in the market,
they’re coming back in to the market in slow steps but they’re coming in an unlevered
fashion because the banks haven’t come back and provide little lines of credits
that were there last September, last October definitely a year ago. So it’s encouraging
to see that. At the same time the resilience is the fact that they already know
and they can anticipate we’re going to have a negative earnings in the US, consumer
spending is not going to be back where it was, we’re still going to continue to
have a trade surplus and the future of the US dollar versus other currency is uncertain.
Host 2: Todd when you look at indicators that signal return to confidence
how encouraging is it for you that we have seen quite a significant bounce back
in the commodity markets granted they haven’t touched on the all time highs, revisited
the high we saw last year, but how encouraging over all is it for you?
Todd G. Everts: I think it’s encouraging and when everyone talks about flight
to quality they talk about going to the US dollar, they talk about going to gold…but
I think that many investors have decided that commodities is a flight to quality
and I think it’s a smart bet over the long term because people need to consume these
commodities and the commodity providers will continue to provide that element and
there’s an opportunity to make a profit and get an equity-like return over other
types of instruments albeit equities or other asset classes so I’m encouraged by
commodity prices improving because of the simple fact that people need to consume
these commodities whether it’s specific to manufacturing that equates in to the
US consumer or it’s actually something that’s consumed. Commodities is a flight
to quality.
Host 1: Okay, great to talk to you sir. Thanks for the times. Todd Everts,
CEO at Wall Street Global joining us live from our studios up in Hong Kong.
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